If one intentionally (b'mezid) mentions rain at the wrong time, is the consequence different from inadvertent error (b'shogag)?
Synopsis
Intentional error in mentioning rain requires returning to the beginning of the entire prayer, whereas inadvertent error only requires returning to the blessing.
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When does one begin saying 'Mashiv HaRuach U'Morid HaGeshem' (mentioning wind and rain) in the prayer cycle?
2 opinions
Is it permitted for an individual to mention rain before the prayer leader (chazan) makes an announcement or begins saying it?
3 opinions
If one said 'Mashiv HaRuach' (wind) in the hot season or failed to say it in the rainy season, must one return to correct it?
3 opinions
If one mentioned rain in the hot season (when it is not appropriate), what is the consequence and where must one return?
2 opinions
In the rainy season, if one did not mention rain, must one return?
1 opinions
Under what circumstances must one actually return to the beginning of the prayer (versus just to the blessing) when one forgot to mention rain?
2 opinions
If one is uncertain in the hot season whether one mentioned rain, and uncertainty continues throughout a 30-day period, what is the presumption?
2 opinions
After saying the blessing with rain mention 90 times (corresponding to 30 days × 3 prayers/day) on the first day of Pesach, what presumption applies if one later doubts whether rain was mentioned?
2 opinions
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